Tommy: For someone that’s been a fan of Phil’s work and seeing the trajectory and where it’s come from, his Street Peeper days, like he knows so much more about clothes now and he’s very particular about who he wants to shoot. Um, it’s happened very organically for him. Like it’s a, it’s a learning experience for Phil.
Because it’s not just (00:11:00) you know, oh, you’re pretty, I wanna take your photo now. Phil’s just like, Ooh. Like it really catches his eye. Cause he’s very specific, right? So you, if you look at Phil’s photos, initially there was less chaos, but now he really embraces the chaos.
Laia: Yeah.
Tommy: And that’s what he thrives on, right?
Laia: The chaos is great.The chaos and composition, Phil?
Phil: Yeah. You know you press the button enough times one of them is bound to be right.
Laia: Phil, this is Phil.
José: This is Phil.
Tommy: He has a signature about what, how he shoots. If you see a busted ass face in the side of a corner of his photo, you’re like, oh, that’s a Phil photo.
Laia: Someone giving side eye.
Tommy: He’s capturing the realistic chaos of fashion week.
Phil: Well, you know, we, we take thousands of photos every season that I want, I wanna try to make the pictures as memorable or as funny, or as interesting as possible, I mean, otherwise it’s just, you know, oh, here’s another great outfit.
It’s time to make the donuts again. You know, it’s just, yeah. So I try to make it as interesting as I (00:12:00) can just for my own personal, uh, you know —
José: You gotta keep yourself interested.
Laia: It’s your, I mean, it’s your eye. That’s what we want. That’s what, that’s what we want from people.
Phil: Like Tommy said, Tommy, you know, grew up being an enthusiast. He, he knows. He’s an encyclopedia of you know, of, of fashion. Um, whereas me, uh, you know, having zero background or interest really in fashion, it was all a learning process that, you know, I, that I picked up over the years.
Laia: And there’s value in both things. And that’s important for people to know as well, that you can discover things as you go along and that, you know, quote unquote untrained eye is still, uh, you know, valuable and important and brings something unique.